A Fruitworm moth (Family Carposinidae) at Melba, ACT
Identification history
| Carposina latebrosa | 30 Nov 2024 | ibaird | ||
| Carposina latebrosa | 21 Oct 2024 | DianneClarke | ||
| Carposina undescribed species | 21 Oct 2024 | kasiaaus |
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5 comments
kasiaaus
wrote:
21 Oct 2024
Are all the sightings under Carposina undescribed species actually Carposina latebrosa? They all look like the same species to me. Hmmm.....
donhe
wrote:
21 Oct 2024
Many Carposina species look variable and superficially similar. I think we should lump them all in 'Carposina(genus)'
ibaird
wrote:
22 Oct 2024
There are at least 16 spp of Carposina (genus) shown by the ALA and iNaturalist, several quite distinguishable. 'Moths in the ACT. says there are 20 named Australian Caposina spp., see p. 133. plus I quote: 'Carposinia petraea (not illustrated) and this unnamed species (illustrated) have been recorded regularly at Black Mt and in the Brindabella range over the years, and now the unnamed spcies is being found in Canberra backyards, Both species fly in spring and early summer.'
Ideally then I think that locally in Canberra we should check for the unnamed species (hence the category in the taxonomy) , then C. petraea and then for other named species against known species ID'ed elsewhere.
Judging by iNaturalist, C latebrosa and C. taractis numerically dominate the sightings in se and E. Australia. iNaturalist does not show any C, petraea observations.
The ALA shows one C, petraea sighting via NatureMapr for the South Coast region collected by Glenn Cocking.
Ideally then I think that locally in Canberra we should check for the unnamed species (hence the category in the taxonomy) , then C. petraea and then for other named species against known species ID'ed elsewhere.
Judging by iNaturalist, C latebrosa and C. taractis numerically dominate the sightings in se and E. Australia. iNaturalist does not show any C, petraea observations.
The ALA shows one C, petraea sighting via NatureMapr for the South Coast region collected by Glenn Cocking.
ibaird
wrote:
22 Oct 2024
I agree the side-on photo of 'Carposina undescribed species' in Moths in the ACT is hard to use a guide for identifying that species from photos posted, But we might seek guidance on that from G. Cocking et al. I just think we ought to keep the taxonomic categories we already have, Uncertain moths as named species can be placed in 'Carposinia (genus)',
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Location information
- Coordinates 149.050309-35.208562
- Altitude 617.7m
- Places Melba, ACT
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- 1 Abundance
- 20 Oct 2024 09:28 PM Recorded on
- kasiaaus Recorded by
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- 12mm to 25mm Animal size
- Alive / healthy Animal health
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- Carposina latebrosa Scientific name
- A Fruitworm moth (Family Carposinidae) Common name
- Not Sensitive
- Local native
- Non-invasive or negligible
- Up to 617.7m Recorded at altitude
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