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Rattus or Mastacomys sp. (genus)

An unidentified rat species at Rendezvous Creek, ACT

Rattus or Mastacomys sp. (genus) at Rendezvous Creek, ACT - 5 Jun 2020
Rattus or Mastacomys sp. (genus) at Rendezvous Creek, ACT - 5 Jun 2020
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Rattus or Mastacomys sp. (genus) 5 Jun 2020 MichaelMulvaney
Rattus fuscipes 5 Jun 2020 dhkmapr
Unidentified 5 Jun 2020 ChrisHolder

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4 comments

DonFletcher wrote:
   5 Jun 2020
Rattus, but is it R rattus or R fuscipes? I cant tell but the tail length makes me lean toward R rattus.
dhkmapr wrote:
   6 Jun 2020
I'm finding it difficult to judge tail length from the photos. One interpretation of the first photo is of a short tail, but with features of the rock behind it suggesting it is longer. The second photo suggests a short tail, but this could be due to perspective. If we're satisfied that the tail is long, and noting that the muzzle is pointed, not rounded, then R rattus is a good ID.
DonFletcher wrote:
   6 Jun 2020
Hi dhkmapr, they seem never to line themselves up with a ruler and the diagonal perspective reduces confidence in the estimate. The actual requirement is to bend the tail forward past the nose so we are doing a lot of work with out imagination to judge from photos. One day someone will do a test with trapping + cameras and find out how good we are at identifying known examples of these two species.
dhkmapr wrote:
   6 Jun 2020
Don. I agree. Variation in camera resolution adds another degree of difficulty. ... not to mention spp that are hard to separate even in the hand - eg some sympatric populations of A stuartii and A agilis.

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