Brachyscome willisii at Googong, NSW

Wandiyali wrote:

2 Nov 2016

Michael, the leaves on these plants are quite broad compared to the other recent Wandiyali sighting identified as C.scabiosifolia var integrifolia. Is there naturally large leaf variation?

Wandiyali wrote:

2 Nov 2016

Michael, the leaves on these plants are quite broad compared to the other recent Wandiyali sighting identified as C.scabiosifolia var integrifolia. Is there naturally large leaf variation?

Wandiyali wrote:

2 Nov 2016

Michael, the leaves on these plants are quite broad compared to the other recent Wandiyali sighting identified as C.scabiosifolia var integrifolia. Is there naturally large leaf variation?

Wandiyali wrote:

2 Nov 2016

Michael, the leaves on these plants are quite broad compared to the other recent Wandiyali sighting identified as C.scabiosifolia var integrifolia. Is there naturally large leaf variation?

Wandiyali wrote:

2 Nov 2016

Michael, the leaves on these plants are quite broad compared to the other recent Wandiyali sighting identified as C.scabiosifolia var integrifolia. Is there naturally large leaf variation?

Wandiyali wrote:

2 Nov 2016

Michael, the leaves on these plants are quite broad compared to the other recent Wandiyali sighting identified as C.scabiosifolia var integrifolia. Is there naturally large leaf variation?

Wandiyali wrote:

2 Nov 2016

Michael, the leaves on these plants are quite broad compared to the other recent Wandiyali sighting identified as C.scabiosifolia var integrifolia. Is there naturally large leaf variation?

BettyDonWood wrote:

2 Nov 2016

It is definitely not Calotis scabiosifolia. The local subsp. Integrifolia has entire leaves (with smooth margins). The lobed subsp. scabiosifolia occurs well west of here. I think it is a Brachyscome, but not B. rigidula which has very narrow lobes on the leaves. I need measurements of plant height, flower diameter, and leaf length, so I can try to narrow down the possibilities in my draft interactive key. Also the habitat (eg forest, woodland, grassy, disturbed). With difficult IDs like this, the more information the better.

BettyDonWood wrote:

2 Nov 2016

It is definitely not Calotis scabiosifolia. The local subsp. Integrifolia has entire leaves (with smooth margins). The lobed subsp. scabiosifolia occurs well west of here. I think it is a Brachyscome, but not B. rigidula which has very narrow lobes on the leaves. I need measurements of plant height, flower diameter, and leaf length, so I can try to narrow down the possibilities in my draft interactive key. Also the habitat (eg forest, woodland, grassy, disturbed). With difficult IDs like this, the more information the better.

BettyDonWood wrote:

2 Nov 2016

It is definitely not Calotis scabiosifolia. The local subsp. Integrifolia has entire leaves (with smooth margins). The lobed subsp. scabiosifolia occurs well west of here. I think it is a Brachyscome, but not B. rigidula which has very narrow lobes on the leaves. I need measurements of plant height, flower diameter, and leaf length, so I can try to narrow down the possibilities in my draft interactive key. Also the habitat (eg forest, woodland, grassy, disturbed). With difficult IDs like this, the more information the better.

BettyDonWood wrote:

2 Nov 2016

It is definitely not Calotis scabiosifolia. The local subsp. Integrifolia has entire leaves (with smooth margins). The lobed subsp. scabiosifolia occurs well west of here. I think it is a Brachyscome, but not B. rigidula which has very narrow lobes on the leaves. I need measurements of plant height, flower diameter, and leaf length, so I can try to narrow down the possibilities in my draft interactive key. Also the habitat (eg forest, woodland, grassy, disturbed). With difficult IDs like this, the more information the better.

BettyDonWood wrote:

2 Nov 2016

It is definitely not Calotis scabiosifolia. The local subsp. Integrifolia has entire leaves (with smooth margins). The lobed subsp. scabiosifolia occurs well west of here. I think it is a Brachyscome, but not B. rigidula which has very narrow lobes on the leaves. I need measurements of plant height, flower diameter, and leaf length, so I can try to narrow down the possibilities in my draft interactive key. Also the habitat (eg forest, woodland, grassy, disturbed). With difficult IDs like this, the more information the better.

Wandiyali wrote:

2 Nov 2016

I have added another photo with some measurements.
Plant height ~170mm
Flower diameter ~30mm
Leaf length ~60-80mm
Found in relatively undisturbed Box Gum Grassy Woodland.

Wandiyali wrote:

2 Nov 2016

I have added another photo with some measurements.
Plant height ~170mm
Flower diameter ~30mm
Leaf length ~60-80mm
Found in relatively undisturbed Box Gum Grassy Woodland.

Wandiyali wrote:

2 Nov 2016

I have added another photo with some measurements.
Plant height ~170mm
Flower diameter ~30mm
Leaf length ~60-80mm
Found in relatively undisturbed Box Gum Grassy Woodland.

Wandiyali wrote:

2 Nov 2016

I have added another photo with some measurements.
Plant height ~170mm
Flower diameter ~30mm
Leaf length ~60-80mm
Found in relatively undisturbed Box Gum Grassy Woodland.

Wandiyali wrote:

2 Nov 2016

I have added another photo with some measurements.
Plant height ~170mm
Flower diameter ~30mm
Leaf length ~60-80mm
Found in relatively undisturbed Box Gum Grassy Woodland.

Wandiyali wrote:

2 Nov 2016

I have added another photo with some measurements.
Plant height ~170mm
Flower diameter ~30mm
Leaf length ~60-80mm
Found in relatively undisturbed Box Gum Grassy Woodland.

Wandiyali wrote:

2 Nov 2016

I have added another photo with some measurements.
Plant height ~170mm
Flower diameter ~30mm
Leaf length ~60-80mm
Found in relatively undisturbed Box Gum Grassy Woodland.

MichaelMulvaney wrote:

2 Nov 2016

Thanks guys I originally thought Brachyscome but couldn't find one that fitted, unfortunately a lot of the ID in this genus is based on seed characteristics, Calotis was just my best guess, but the leaves did concern me, but I thought I would make a suggestion and let Betty make a determination.

MichaelMulvaney wrote:

2 Nov 2016

Thanks guys I originally thought Brachyscome but couldn't find one that fitted, unfortunately a lot of the ID in this genus is based on seed characteristics, Calotis was just my best guess, but the leaves did concern me, but I thought I would make a suggestion and let Betty make a determination.

MichaelMulvaney wrote:

2 Nov 2016

Thanks guys I originally thought Brachyscome but couldn't find one that fitted, unfortunately a lot of the ID in this genus is based on seed characteristics, Calotis was just my best guess, but the leaves did concern me, but I thought I would make a suggestion and let Betty make a determination.

MichaelMulvaney wrote:

2 Nov 2016

Thanks guys I originally thought Brachyscome but couldn't find one that fitted, unfortunately a lot of the ID in this genus is based on seed characteristics, Calotis was just my best guess, but the leaves did concern me, but I thought I would make a suggestion and let Betty make a determination.

MichaelMulvaney wrote:

2 Nov 2016

Thanks guys I originally thought Brachyscome but couldn't find one that fitted, unfortunately a lot of the ID in this genus is based on seed characteristics, Calotis was just my best guess, but the leaves did concern me, but I thought I would make a suggestion and let Betty make a determination.

MichaelMulvaney wrote:

2 Nov 2016

Thanks guys I originally thought Brachyscome but couldn't find one that fitted, unfortunately a lot of the ID in this genus is based on seed characteristics, Calotis was just my best guess, but the leaves did concern me, but I thought I would make a suggestion and let Betty make a determination.

MichaelMulvaney wrote:

2 Nov 2016

Thanks guys I originally thought Brachyscome but couldn't find one that fitted, unfortunately a lot of the ID in this genus is based on seed characteristics, Calotis was just my best guess, but the leaves did concern me, but I thought I would make a suggestion and let Betty make a determination.

MichaelMulvaney wrote:

2 Nov 2016

Thanks guys I originally thought Brachyscome but couldn't find one that fitted, unfortunately a lot of the ID in this genus is based on seed characteristics, Calotis was just my best guess, but the leaves did concern me, but I thought I would make a suggestion and let Betty make a determination.

MichaelMulvaney wrote:

2 Nov 2016

Thanks guys I originally thought Brachyscome but couldn't find one that fitted, unfortunately a lot of the ID in this genus is based on seed characteristics, Calotis was just my best guess, but the leaves did concern me, but I thought I would make a suggestion and let Betty make a determination.

MichaelMulvaney wrote:

2 Nov 2016

Thanks guys I originally thought Brachyscome but couldn't find one that fitted, unfortunately a lot of the ID in this genus is based on seed characteristics, Calotis was just my best guess, but the leaves did concern me, but I thought I would make a suggestion and let Betty make a determination.

MichaelMulvaney wrote:

2 Nov 2016

Thanks guys I originally thought Brachyscome but couldn't find one that fitted, unfortunately a lot of the ID in this genus is based on seed characteristics, Calotis was just my best guess, but the leaves did concern me, but I thought I would make a suggestion and let Betty make a determination.

MichaelMulvaney wrote:

2 Nov 2016

Thanks guys I originally thought Brachyscome but couldn't find one that fitted, unfortunately a lot of the ID in this genus is based on seed characteristics, Calotis was just my best guess, but the leaves did concern me, but I thought I would make a suggestion and let Betty make a determination.

MichaelMulvaney wrote:

2 Nov 2016

Thanks guys I originally thought Brachyscome but couldn't find one that fitted, unfortunately a lot of the ID in this genus is based on seed characteristics, Calotis was just my best guess, but the leaves did concern me, but I thought I would make a suggestion and let Betty make a determination.

MichaelMulvaney wrote:

2 Nov 2016

Thanks guys I originally thought Brachyscome but couldn't find one that fitted, unfortunately a lot of the ID in this genus is based on seed characteristics, Calotis was just my best guess, but the leaves did concern me, but I thought I would make a suggestion and let Betty make a determination.

MichaelMulvaney wrote:

2 Nov 2016

Thanks guys I originally thought Brachyscome but couldn't find one that fitted, unfortunately a lot of the ID in this genus is based on seed characteristics, Calotis was just my best guess, but the leaves did concern me, but I thought I would make a suggestion and let Betty make a determination.

MichaelMulvaney wrote:

2 Nov 2016

Thanks guys I originally thought Brachyscome but couldn't find one that fitted, unfortunately a lot of the ID in this genus is based on seed characteristics, Calotis was just my best guess, but the leaves did concern me, but I thought I would make a suggestion and let Betty make a determination.

MichaelMulvaney wrote:

2 Nov 2016

Thanks guys I originally thought Brachyscome but couldn't find one that fitted, unfortunately a lot of the ID in this genus is based on seed characteristics, Calotis was just my best guess, but the leaves did concern me, but I thought I would make a suggestion and let Betty make a determination.

MichaelMulvaney wrote:

2 Nov 2016

Thanks guys I originally thought Brachyscome but couldn't find one that fitted, unfortunately a lot of the ID in this genus is based on seed characteristics, Calotis was just my best guess, but the leaves did concern me, but I thought I would make a suggestion and let Betty make a determination.

MichaelMulvaney wrote:

2 Nov 2016

Thanks guys I originally thought Brachyscome but couldn't find one that fitted, unfortunately a lot of the ID in this genus is based on seed characteristics, Calotis was just my best guess, but the leaves did concern me, but I thought I would make a suggestion and let Betty make a determination.

MichaelMulvaney wrote:

2 Nov 2016

Thanks guys I originally thought Brachyscome but couldn't find one that fitted, unfortunately a lot of the ID in this genus is based on seed characteristics, Calotis was just my best guess, but the leaves did concern me, but I thought I would make a suggestion and let Betty make a determination.

MichaelMulvaney wrote:

2 Nov 2016

Thanks guys I originally thought Brachyscome but couldn't find one that fitted, unfortunately a lot of the ID in this genus is based on seed characteristics, Calotis was just my best guess, but the leaves did concern me, but I thought I would make a suggestion and let Betty make a determination.

MichaelMulvaney wrote:

2 Nov 2016

Thanks guys I originally thought Brachyscome but couldn't find one that fitted, unfortunately a lot of the ID in this genus is based on seed characteristics, Calotis was just my best guess, but the leaves did concern me, but I thought I would make a suggestion and let Betty make a determination.

MichaelMulvaney wrote:

2 Nov 2016

Thanks guys I originally thought Brachyscome but couldn't find one that fitted, unfortunately a lot of the ID in this genus is based on seed characteristics, Calotis was just my best guess, but the leaves did concern me, but I thought I would make a suggestion and let Betty make a determination.

MichaelMulvaney wrote:

2 Nov 2016

Thanks guys I originally thought Brachyscome but couldn't find one that fitted, unfortunately a lot of the ID in this genus is based on seed characteristics, Calotis was just my best guess, but the leaves did concern me, but I thought I would make a suggestion and let Betty make a determination.

MichaelMulvaney wrote:

2 Nov 2016

Thanks guys I originally thought Brachyscome but couldn't find one that fitted, unfortunately a lot of the ID in this genus is based on seed characteristics, Calotis was just my best guess, but the leaves did concern me, but I thought I would make a suggestion and let Betty make a determination.

MichaelMulvaney wrote:

2 Nov 2016

Thanks guys I originally thought Brachyscome but couldn't find one that fitted, unfortunately a lot of the ID in this genus is based on seed characteristics, Calotis was just my best guess, but the leaves did concern me, but I thought I would make a suggestion and let Betty make a determination.

MichaelMulvaney wrote:

2 Nov 2016

Thanks guys I originally thought Brachyscome but couldn't find one that fitted, unfortunately a lot of the ID in this genus is based on seed characteristics, Calotis was just my best guess, but the leaves did concern me, but I thought I would make a suggestion and let Betty make a determination.

MichaelMulvaney wrote:

2 Nov 2016

Thanks guys I originally thought Brachyscome but couldn't find one that fitted, unfortunately a lot of the ID in this genus is based on seed characteristics, Calotis was just my best guess, but the leaves did concern me, but I thought I would make a suggestion and let Betty make a determination.

MichaelMulvaney wrote:

2 Nov 2016

Thanks guys I originally thought Brachyscome but couldn't find one that fitted, unfortunately a lot of the ID in this genus is based on seed characteristics, Calotis was just my best guess, but the leaves did concern me, but I thought I would make a suggestion and let Betty make a determination.

MichaelMulvaney wrote:

2 Nov 2016

Thanks guys I originally thought Brachyscome but couldn't find one that fitted, unfortunately a lot of the ID in this genus is based on seed characteristics, Calotis was just my best guess, but the leaves did concern me, but I thought I would make a suggestion and let Betty make a determination.

MichaelMulvaney wrote:

2 Nov 2016

Thanks guys I originally thought Brachyscome but couldn't find one that fitted, unfortunately a lot of the ID in this genus is based on seed characteristics, Calotis was just my best guess, but the leaves did concern me, but I thought I would make a suggestion and let Betty make a determination.

BettyDonWood wrote:

5 Nov 2016

I have checked it out. The only real possibility is Brachyscome ciliaris. I usually decide on this in areas which is known to occur by comparing seeds or immature seeds belonging to the 'petals' (small and unwinged) and seeds from the main part of the flower head (larger and winged). This is easy to see with a hand lens, and when you know what you are looking for, not too bad with the naked eye. This species is not on the ACT Plant Census. Brachyscome multifida was also a possibility, but I would expect that to be a garden escape. Overall, I will make it Brachyscome sp. at the moment.

BettyDonWood wrote:

5 Nov 2016

I have checked it out. The only real possibility is Brachyscome ciliaris. I usually decide on this in areas which is known to occur by comparing seeds or immature seeds belonging to the 'petals' (small and unwinged) and seeds from the main part of the flower head (larger and winged). This is easy to see with a hand lens, and when you know what you are looking for, not too bad with the naked eye. This species is not on the ACT Plant Census. Brachyscome multifida was also a possibility, but I would expect that to be a garden escape. Overall, I will make it Brachyscome sp. at the moment.

BettyDonWood wrote:

5 Nov 2016

I have checked it out. The only real possibility is Brachyscome ciliaris. I usually decide on this in areas which is known to occur by comparing seeds or immature seeds belonging to the 'petals' (small and unwinged) and seeds from the main part of the flower head (larger and winged). This is easy to see with a hand lens, and when you know what you are looking for, not too bad with the naked eye. This species is not on the ACT Plant Census. Brachyscome multifida was also a possibility, but I would expect that to be a garden escape. Overall, I will make it Brachyscome sp. at the moment.

BettyDonWood wrote:

5 Nov 2016

I have checked it out. The only real possibility is Brachyscome ciliaris. I usually decide on this in areas which is known to occur by comparing seeds or immature seeds belonging to the 'petals' (small and unwinged) and seeds from the main part of the flower head (larger and winged). This is easy to see with a hand lens, and when you know what you are looking for, not too bad with the naked eye. This species is not on the ACT Plant Census. Brachyscome multifida was also a possibility, but I would expect that to be a garden escape. Overall, I will make it Brachyscome sp. at the moment.

BettyDonWood wrote:

5 Nov 2016

I have checked it out. The only real possibility is Brachyscome ciliaris. I usually decide on this in areas which is known to occur by comparing seeds or immature seeds belonging to the 'petals' (small and unwinged) and seeds from the main part of the flower head (larger and winged). This is easy to see with a hand lens, and when you know what you are looking for, not too bad with the naked eye. This species is not on the ACT Plant Census. Brachyscome multifida was also a possibility, but I would expect that to be a garden escape. Overall, I will make it Brachyscome sp. at the moment.

MichaelMulvaney wrote:

5 Nov 2016